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HTC Incredible S – Camera Comparison

( due to my blog being nuked when my host went down… click here for my ASUS EEPC Slate Review )

 

One thing comparing the Incredible S to the Desire that has been dramatically improved is the camera.  Not just the bump from 5 to 8megapixels, but the processing software seems to have been given some real attention.  The Desire’s camera was “flat” in the shots it took and for me wasn’t worth using.

The Incredible S however is a very rich, vibrant.  It isn’t a DSLR ( which I carry with me nearly everywhere), but it is a great point and shoot camera for a wide variety of shooting environments.

The camera does low light very well, and limits ISO Noise very very well. One issue with lowlight though is that it pushes more red into images than is necessary.  Whilst the lighting at the nightclub where I took the photos of the Cat Empire, was heavily skewed red, this red dominance also came out in the sunset shot that I took at the river, there at least I had the Nikon D7K to get a much more realistic colour balance out of the shot. Which also is a case of apples and oranges, one is phone, one is prosumer DSLR :-)

The flash on the camera is up to the task, but you will notice that the band shots don’t have the flash on, because I wanted photos of the band, not the back of people’s heads.  You might want to remember that next time you’re at a concert. The great thing is that the Incredible also remembers the last state the flash was on as well, even when you exit the app.  A nice touch, that means you can take photos quickly without having to reset the camera every time.

For reasons that are not knee bone is connected to the leg bone type of logic, if you are using the phone is being used as a WIFI hot spot ( which is great if you don’t have the USB cable with you, or you wish to share it with a few friends ), you can’t use the flash.  I’m sure there is a good technical reason for this, but I can’t think what it was.

I’d much rather that the effects vs the settings could have been switched.  Then I am a lot more of purist when it comes to photography anyway.  The face detection works really well, even if the subject is in the background of the image, and the cameras inherent depth of field gets everything in focus. White Balance etc all seem to work just fine but nested as they are, tweaking one item, such as white balance, involved more clicks as sub items take over the menu structure.

The geotagging feature is great to leave on, but is one that I would have given higher priority to in the menus.  I would love to be able to one click turn it off and on for photos as I went.  Photos from home for example would not be tagged or from a friends place, but out in public tag away is the way I like to shoot.  The GPS seems to get a fix very quickly, often one or two shots in a new location and they are tagged. A cursory look at images I have uploaded to flickr shows the location very accurately as well.

Sure, the camera has nice little effects, to be honest the only one I would consider using is the depth of field filter.  Even then unless it was something I couldn’t get a feel for a particular shot that I was after.  As a rule, and this applies to all photos that you take with your phone etc, don’t and I mean DON’T apply camera filters.  Why, because in 12 months time, or even the day after you won’t have the unedited version.  The photos off the Incredible should print really well, and unless you have the “clean” version you are going to regret not having it sooner rather than later.

But, words are words, images are images…  I let them do the talking… ( ok, with just a touch of voice over…. )

(All images link to full size flickr version )

Dull Sunset Comparison

I am not a camera phone horder... just doing a review...

(Plus the Nikon D7000 that took the shot)

Nikon D7000

cloudy_sunset-nikon-d7k

Nokia N8

cloudy_sunset-nokia-n8

HTC Incredible S

cloudy_sunset-htc-incredible

Nokia N95-8gb

cloudy_sunset-nokia-n85-8gb

Nokia X-6

cloudy_sunset-nokia-x6

HTC Desire

cloudy_sunset-htc-desire

JVC GC – FM1

cloudy_sunset-jvc-gc-fm1

 

 

Xres Yres ISO Exposure Focal Length Aperture Width Height JPG Size Altitude Lat Long
Model – NIKON D7000 300 300 280 1/125s 18.00 mm F 5.60 4855 3216 6.4MB NO GPS
Model – N8-00 300 300 105 1/191.4s 5.90 mm F 2.80 4000 3000 1.4MB NO FIX
Model – HTC Incredible S 72 72 100 No Data 4.57 mm No Data 3184 1904 1MB 0 m S 37  53  35.05 E 144  59  17.76
Model – N95 8GB 300 300 100 1/500s 5.60 mm F 2.80 2592 1944 .77mb NO FIX
Model – X6-00 300 300 100 1/250s 5.20 mm F 2.80 2592 1944 .68mb 30.50 m S37  53  56.12 E144  59  5.34
Model – HTC Desire 72 72 55 No Data 4.31 mm No Data 2592 1552 .59mb NO FIX
Model – GC-FM1 72 72 100 1/109.9s 3.91 mm F 2.82 3264 2448 2.1mb NO GPS

 

Notes:

The order is how I judge the devices.

Unsurprisingly the DSLR wins :-) , Next is the amazing Nokia N8, which is simply amazing as a camera on a phone. But given the hardware the Incredible S was against, it did do very well.

DPI, the higher the number the better the print.  72DPI is great for onscreen, 300DPI is better for printing, this is reflected broadly in filesize.

The D7000 shot was taken in RAW and exported via Lightroom 3. I do have the Solmeta GPS for the D7000, but it wasn’t plugged in J, the other phones that didn’t get a GPS fix had not been used in sometime and were not already on, when I did the test.

Both the Desire and the Incredible S are lacking much in the way of EXIF data, so a full comparison of EXIF Data is not possible.  Either this is an ongoing firmware issue, or shows the limitations of the HTC Camera System.

Final point, remember that the Nokia N95-8gb is from 2007, so it is the oldest of all off the above devices by a number of years. Still the camera in that phone still stands up.

And here are some more shots from the Incredible S

Good light

macro-goodlight

Very dark room

macro-lowlight-incredibles

The Macro as I said is fantastic.  Add the touch the screen to move the focus point and you can get some great close up photos.  The text in these images is nice and crisp.

This is a pretty sunset….

HTC Incredible Sunset

Sunset - HTC Incredible S

Nikon D7000 Sunset

nikon-d7k-sunset

As you can see from above, the HTC made the sky a lot pinker than it was.  Whilst most people wouldn’t care.. I do.

And now some night shots..

First from the HTC Desire

band_shot-htc-desire

Now two from the Incredible S ( at both ends of the zoom).

band-shot-htc-incredible-1

band-shot-htc-incredible-2

And thanks for getting to the end of this rather long post…. The camera as I said is a great point and shoot, and is a good phone camera.

Nokia N8 – Sunset Camera Showdown

So you are out for an evening walk, watching the sunset and you think, wow that is pretty, I’ll get a photo.

This is the Nokia N8 camera shoot out for that situation. ( Please note, it wasn’t a spectacular sunset the evening I got the shots… )

First is shooting directly into the sun. This is one of those men from the boys tests.

Shooting into the Sun – Nokia N95-8gb Shooting into the Sun - Nokia N8 Comparison - Nokia N95-8gb Version

Camera Nokia N95 8GB
Exposure 0.003 sec (1/333)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.6 mm
ISO Speed 100
Flash Auto, Did not fire
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution 300 dpi
Y-Resolution 300 dpi
YCbCr Positioning Centered
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:25:34
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:25:34
Light Source Unknown
Color Space sRGB
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control None
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Shooting into the Sun – Nikon D90Shooting into the Sun - Nokia N8 Comparison - Nikon D90 Version

Camera Nikon D90
Exposure 0.001 sec (1/800)
Aperture f/16.0
Focal Length 18 mm
ISO Speed 200
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Date and Time (Modified) 2010:10:24 21:24:20
Exposure Program Auto: No Flash
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:24:02.00+11:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:24:02
Max Aperture Value 3.5
Subject Distance 6.31 m
Metering Mode Multi-segment
Light Source Unknown
Sub Sec Time Original 00
Sub Sec Time Digitized 00
Sensing Method One-chip color area
CFAPattern [Green,Blue][Red,Green]
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Focal Length In35mm Format 27 mm
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control None
Contrast Normal
Saturation Normal
Sharpness Normal
Subject Distance Range Unknown
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Viewing Conditions Illuminant Type D50
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Lens 18.0-200.0 mm f/3.5-6.3
Lens ID 38
Image Number 85557
Color Transform YCbCr
Flash Return No return detection
Flash Mode Auto

Shooting into the Sun – JVC GC-FM1Shooting into the Sun - Nokia N8 Comparison - JVC GC-FM1 Version

Camera JVC GC-FM1
Exposure 1/4029 sec
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 3.9 mm
ISO Speed 100
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash No flash function
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution 72 dpi
Y-Resolution 72 dpi
Date and Time (Modified) 2010:10:24 19:22:55
YCbCr Positioning Co-sited
Exposure Program Program AE
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:22:55
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:22:55
Max Aperture Value 2.8
Metering Mode Center-weighted average
Light Source Unknown
Color Space sRGB
Custom Rendered Normal
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Shooting into the Sun – HTC Desire Shooting into the Sun - Nokia N8 Comparison - HTC Desire Version

Camera HTC Desire
ISO Speed 100
X-Resolution 72 dpi
Y-Resolution 72 dpi
YCbCr Positioning Centered
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:22:31
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:22:31
Color Space sRGB
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0
GPS Latitude 37 deg 53′ 51.27″ S
GPS Longitude 144 deg 59′ 8.24″ E
GPSAltitude Ref Above Sea Level
GPSAltitude 12 m
GPSTime Stamp 19:22:31
GPSMap Datum WGS-84
GPSProcessing Method HYBRID-FIX
GPSDate Stamp 2010:10:24
Compression JPEG (old-style)

Shooting into the Sun – Nokia X6 Shooting into the Sun - Nokia N8 Comparison - Nokia X6 Version

Camera Nokia X6-00
Exposure 1/1000000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.2 mm
ISO Speed 123
Flash Auto, Did not fire
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution 300 dpi
Y-Resolution 300 dpi
YCbCr Positioning Centered
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:21:27
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:21:27
Light Source Unknown
Color Space sRGB
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control Low gain up
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude 37 deg 53′ 51.58″ S
GPS Longitude 144 deg 59′ 7.84″ E
GPSAltitude Ref Below Sea Level
GPSAltitude 1.5 m
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Shooting into the Sun – Nokia N8 Shooting into the Sun - Nokia N8 Comparison - Nokia N8 Version

Camera Nokia N8-00
Exposure 0.001 sec (1/1400)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.9 mm
ISO Speed 100
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Date and Time (Modified) 2010:10:24 21:11:30
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:21:18.153+11:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:21:18
Light Source Unknown
Sub Sec Time Original 153
Sub Sec Time Digitized 153
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 0
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control None
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPSAltitude Ref Above Sea Level
GPSAltitude 5 m
GPSMeasure Mode 3-Dimensional Measurement
GPSDOP 0.9
GPSMap Datum WGS-84
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Viewing Conditions Illuminant Type D50
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Color Transform YCbCr
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude 37 deg 53′ 51.34″ S
GPS Longitude 144 deg 59′ 7.91″ E
GPSAltitude Ref Above Sea Level
GPSAltitude 5 m
GPSMeasure Mode 3-Dimensional
GPSDOP 0.9
GPSMap Datum WGS-84

Looking towards Melbourne CBD from Brighton.

Skyline – Nokia95-8gbSkyline Comparison Series  - Nokia95-8gb - 5mp Camera

Camera Nokia N95 8GB
Exposure 0.009 sec (1/110)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.6 mm
ISO Speed 160
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:27:26+11:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:27:26
Light Source Unknown
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control Low gain up
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Viewing Conditions Illuminant Type D50
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Color Transform YCbCr
Flash Return No return detection
Flash Mode Auto
Flash Function False
Flash Red Eye Mode False
Skyline – Nikon D90 Skyline Comparison Series - Nikon D90 - 12mp Camera

Camera Nikon D90
Exposure 0.005 sec (1/200)
Aperture f/7.1
Focal Length 18 mm
ISO Speed 200
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Software Ver.1.00
Exposure Program Auto: No Flash
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:26:33.00+11:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:26:33
Max Aperture Value 3.5
Subject Distance 21.1 m
Metering Mode Multi-segment
Light Source Unknown
Sub Sec Time Original 00
Sub Sec Time Digitized 00
Sensing Method One-chip color area
CFAPattern [Green,Blue][Red,Green]
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Focal Length In35mm Format 27 mm
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control None
Contrast Normal
Saturation Normal
Sharpness Normal
Subject Distance Range Unknown
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Viewing Conditions Illuminant Type D50
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Lens 18.0-200.0 mm f/3.5-6.3
Lens ID 38
Image Number 85559
Color Transform YCbCr

Skyline – JVC GC-FM1Skyline Comparison Series  - JVC GC-FM1 - 8mp Camera

Camera JVC GC-FM1
Exposure 0.003 sec (1/340)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 3.9 mm
ISO Speed 100
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash No flash function
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Date and Time (Modified) 2010:10:24 21:15:02
Exposure Program Program AE
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:26:52+11:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:26:52
Max Aperture Value 2.8
Metering Mode Center-weighted average
Light Source Unknown
Custom Rendered Normal
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Color Transform YCbCr
Flash Return No return detection
Flash Mode Unknown
Flash Function True
Flash Red Eye Mode False
Skyline – HTC Desire Skyline Comparison Series - HTC Desire - 5mp Camera

Camera HTC Desire
ISO Speed 100
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:25:39+11:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:25:39
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPSAltitude Ref Above Sea Level
GPSAltitude 9 m
GPSTime Stamp 19:25:39
GPSMap Datum WGS-84
GPSProcessing Method HYBRID-FIX
GPSDate Stamp 2010:10:24
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Color Transform YCbCr
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude 37 deg 53′ 51.37″ S
GPS Longitude 144 deg 59′ 8.08″ E
GPSAltitude Ref Above Sea Level
GPSAltitude 9 m
GPSDate Time 2010:10:24 19:25:39Z
GPSMap Datum WGS-84
GPSProcessing Method HYBRID-FIX

Skyline – Nokia X6Skyline Comparison Series - Nokia X6 - 5mp Camera

Camera Nokia X6-00
Exposure 0.002 sec (1/500)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.2 mm
ISO Speed 100
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:24:11+11:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:24:11
Light Source Unknown
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control None
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPSAltitude Ref Below Sea Level
GPSAltitude 7 m
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Color Transform YCbCr
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude 37 deg 53′ 51.83″ S
GPS Longitude 144 deg 59′ 7.72″ E
GPSAltitude Ref Below Sea Level
GPSAltitude 7 m
Flash Return No return detection
Flash Mode Auto
Flash Function False
Flash Red Eye Mode False
Skyline – Nokia N8Skyline Comparison Series - Nokia N8

Camera Nokia N8-00
Exposure 0.003 sec (1/310)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.9 mm
ISO Speed 103
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Date and Time (Original) 2010:10:24 19:24:21.534+11:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2010:10:24 19:24:21
Light Source Unknown
Sub Sec Time Original 534
Sub Sec Time Digitized 534
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control Low gain up
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPSAltitude Ref Above Sea Level
GPSAltitude 19.5 m
GPSMeasure Mode 3-Dimensional Measurement
GPSDOP 1.1
GPSMap Datum WGS-84
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Viewing Conditions Illuminant Type D50
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Color Transform YCbCr
GPSVersion ID 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude 37 deg 53′ 51.03″ S
GPS Longitude 144 deg 59′ 7.94″ E
GPSAltitude Ref Above Sea Level
GPSAltitude 19.5 m
GPSMeasure Mode 3-Dimensional
GPSDOP 1.1
GPSMap Datum WGS-84
Flash Return No return detection
Flash Mode Auto
Flash Function False
Flash Red Eye Mode False

Headline numbers on the Cameras are.

Nokia X6- 5megapixel
Nokia N95-8gb- 5megapixel
HTC Desire – 5megapixel
JVC FM1 – 8megapixel
Nikon D90 – 12megapixel
Nokia N8 – 12megapixel

Whilst I know that sensor size, aperture, glass etc are what makes a great camera, megapixels is what Joe Public know when they are after a camera.

One of the more interesting things that came out of the second test, was that 3 of the cameras that had GPS built into them had time to get a GPS fix. Compare the locations.

Camera Nokia X6-00 Nokia N8-00 HTC Desire
GPS Latitude 37° 53′ 51.83″ S 37° 53′ 51.03″ S 37° 53′ 51.37″ S
GPS Longitude 144° 59′ 7.72″ E 144° 59′ 7.94″ E 144° 59′ 8.08″ E
GPSAltitude Ref Below Sea Level Above Sea Level Above Sea Level
GPSAltitude 7 m 19.5 m 9 m
GPSDate Time 2010:10:24 19:25:39Z
GPSMap Datum WGS-84 WGS-84
GPSProcessing Method HYBRID-FIX

KML Google Map Showing, location of the Above Cameras. The HTC was the closest.

View Larger Map

All the EXIF data, is pulled from Flickr’s view EXIF info mode, more data would be available through other tools.

Once again, the Nokia N8 wins in the above tests. ( Well apart from the D90 ). I kept the D90 in the tests for showing what a DSLR can shoot compared to a mobile phone when on auto mode.

I can not believe just how bad the camera on the HTC Desire is, it fails on every comparison test I do. And fails by a long way.

To be fair to my Nikon D90…. this is what you can get, with a DSLR, Manual Mode and a 70-300mm Lens. This is the cheap old 70-300mm lens which costs less cost less than $200AUD.

The end of 10

( This shot is also available for purchase on Redbubble )

Nokia N8 – Macro Camera Shoot Out

The following are Macro Shots from all the devices I could find lying around my house. I did set a minimum bench mark of  5 MegaPixels for the device that I would shot from.

All devices were on Automode, and the scene was in hard light at 5:40pm, of flowers in my front garden.

The shots were just lined up quickly by hand but all taken within a few min of each other.

(Click on each Image to link through for the full size shots)

Macro Shots – Nokia N95-8gbMacro Shots - N8 Compare - Nokia N95-8gb Macro Shots – JVC FM1Macro Shots - N8 Compare - JVC FM1
Camera Nokia N95 8GB
Exposure 0.009 sec (1/111)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.6 mm
ISO Speed 100
Flash Auto, Did not fire
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution 300 dpi
Y-Resolution 300 dpi
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1.04
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control None
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Camera JVC GC-FM1
Exposure 0.002 sec (1/599)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 3.9 mm
ISO Speed 100
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash No flash function
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution 72 dpi
Y-Resolution 72 dpi
Date and Time (Modified) 2010:10:24 17:41:23
YCbCr Positioning Co-sited
Exposure Program Program AE
Metering Mode Center-weighted average
Light Source Unknown
Custom Rendered Normal
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Compression JPEG (old-style)

Macro Shots – Nokia X6Macro Shots - N8 Compare - Nokia X6 Macro Shots – Nokia N8Macro Shots - N8 Compare - Nokia N8
Camera Nokia X6-00
Exposure 0.003 sec (1/333)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.2 mm
ISO Speed 100
Flash Auto, Did not fire
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution 300 dpi
Y-Resolution 300 dpi
YCbCr Positioning Centered
Light Source Unknown
Color Space sRGB
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control None
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Camera Nokia N8-00
Exposure 0.012 sec (1/85)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 5.9 mm
ISO Speed 102
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 0
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control Low gain up

Macro Shots – Nikon D90Macro Shots - N8 Compare - Nikon D90 Macro Shots – HTC DesireMacro Shots - N8 Compare - HTC Desire
Camera Nikon D90
Exposure 0.003 sec (1/400)
Aperture f/10.0
Focal Length 18 mm
ISO Speed 200
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Max Aperture Value 3.5
Subject Distance 0.45 m
Metering Mode Multi-segment
Light Source Unknown
CFAPattern [Green,Blue][Red,Green]
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Focal Length In35mm Format 27 mm
Scene Capture Type Standard
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Color Transform YCbCr
Flash Return No return detection
Flash Mode Auto
Camera HTC Desire
ISO Speed 100
X-Resolution 72 dpi
Y-Resolution 72 dpi
YCbCr Positioning Centered
Compression JPEG (old-style)

The worst performer was the HTC Desire. Colour rendering is terrible, it is washed out and insipid. ( I’d like to see if the new HTC Desire HD camera is any better, but the current Desire’s camera is pathetic )

The N8, did a wonderful job. Colour rendition is very close, for what is a tricky shot, the depth of field is bang on as well.

The 3 year old Nokia N95-8gb, still stands up as a great camera, but it showing its age when compared to the Nokia N8

The D90, shot to dark in Automode. (But I don’t shot in Automode that often, and still have the RAW version to process)

I’ve yet to see a cameraphone that comes close to the Nokia N8. The new sensor, coupled with the Carl Zeiss F2.8 lens is simply stunning. 4000×3000 shots with real print DPI, give you a lot of wiggle room for cropping as well.

I have yet however to find a way to move the focus point on the N8. This makes playing with the depth of field very tricky. It comes down to lining up the focus point then moving the camera to get the out of focus elements you want. Which on the above camera phones is the only thing that the HTC Desire had going in its favour.  I’d like to see Nokia open up the camera app, to allow some real control over the image as well. Why, cause they could.  Sre I lug my Nikon D90 with me, but giving people some more fine control over the camera would help people get the most out of this device.

Whilst, in my big review, I pointed out there was a lot wrong with the N8, some of which I am sure will get ironed out with firmware updates and third party applications, Overall the camera is simply stunning. If you are a Nokia user, who likes to get photos on the run with their phone and not lug around a separate camera, get the N8.

For me, the USB as Host feature and its amazing Macro lens, means I will still be carrying around the N8 with me, because it does add to my overall set of tools.

The Nokia N8 Review, I really didn’t want to write.

Ok, so I have been using the Nokia N8 for two weeks now.  Have played with it lots and really enjoying it in so many ways.  Yet here I am writing a blog post review it, and the title says I didn’t want to.  To be honest I really wanted this phone.  When first announced, I was still using my Nokia N95-8gb, waiting for a phone to beat it. I thought the N8 was going to be that phone.

Of course in the interim I was seduced by the dark side as it were… – no not Apple, (not that dark), but Android; the HTC Desire.

To be a spoiler of my own review, if I was comparing only the Nokia family, then the N8 is an amazing “phone”.  These days, for a great number of people including myself that just isn’t enough any more.  Many people need a mobile computer; access on the go to Google, email, games and importantly social networks.

Nokia, you aren’t playing in the same game anymore.  The N8 is without a doubt an amazing Nokia phone. But Nokia the game has changed, you needed a product that will bring people back to you, and unfortunately this is not it.

And on to the why’s and wherefores about my decision.  Certainly, there are a lot of features that are more than worthy on the N8, many of these features will get dedicated blog posts of their own over the next few weeks.

The Nokia N8, is great to hold.  It feels solid in your hand, without being plastic and cheap. It is also one of the few phones on the market that stands up on its own. Whilst, on paper it is close to the HTC Desire, I like the feel of the N8. You know you are holding a solid piece of engineering and development. The buttons feel great, the controls are solid and the micro sd-card slot and sim slot are easy to reach.  The Sim and micro-SD slots easily accessible and you can swap out as you go. With 16gb on storage on the N8, you can dump all your apps on the phone, plus a few thousand photos and just use the micro-SD for music. These are big things over the Desire, which puts everything behind a flimsy back of plastic. One that you have to take the battery out for, to change the micro-SD card or swap the sim.

Yet, the Nokia has a major problem here. The Desire has a changeable battery.  Whilst you could swap the battery if you have a Torx screwdriver on the N8, this isn’t what I would call user friendly.  I have found in my non technical testing that the battery life on the N8, is certainly much better than the Desire. But using standby and call times for batteries are useless metrics days.  If I used my Nokia only as a phone, I could get 1 hours more talk time on 3G than the Desire. How many people buy smart phones only as phones.  Heavy usage, will still drain the battery in a few hours.  The Nokia N8, does at least support USB charging, along with the traditional Nokia 2.0mm charger.

Nokia N8- Flower Macro - YellowThe camera on the Nokia N8 is fantastic.  In fact I will say that again, the camera is fantastic.  I am at the point of holding off buying a new macro lens for my Nikon D90 camera because I can use the N8 as a macro lens, of a comparable quality to what I get from my D90. It is simply that good.  Now it isn’t a replacement for the Nikon D90 in anyway, but if you have to have a phone with a camera, you can’t go wrong with the N8. The 12MP Camera, with “a huge arse” sensor (I am sure that is the correct technical term), will take photographs that leave all other camera phones for dust.

But, the great camera is let down by the operating system.  For example, I’ve yet to work out how to change the focus point on the camera. There is no native Upload to Flickr as a key point. So I have a fantastic camera, which on the OVI store is only supported by a few apps to give me uploading to Flickr options, to easily share the content I create.

The “New” Symbain ^3 Operating System, tries its best to be the old Symbian.  Why, I have no idea.  Of course it is very familiar to Nokia users, and works very well on that level.  To change settings on various applications can be a series of yes and no prompts. Some work at one level, others at two levels though with differing confirm commands.  And because the OS is so new it is missing what for me are basic and core functionalities. The keyboard is only T9 in portrait mode, and a qwerty in landscape, what software engineer decided that? Different screens have different levels of input, some are one level, others are input text, confirm, then update. Again a software issue. Nokia will tell you that the OVI Store has X number of applications.  But that is X number for all handsets, not just the N8 which is new.  A lot of applications are still missing, some from the OS built in, others from 3rd party developers. Yes they will come in time, because this phone will sell in large numbers.  But early adopters are going to run into hurt.

The phone itself, seems slow at times.  While, yes, the operating system can run on lower specs that other devices, it still seems slow.  I wanted it to be snappy, like my Desire is when changing screens for example.  I wanted it not to hang, and I wanted it not to spit out random “Sim Not Found” errors.  Many of these will be fixed I am sure with the next iteration of the firmware. Perhaps more software will be written to take advantage of the 3D Graphics Broadcom Chip, which takes the heavy lifting in graphics off the CPU.  The Nokia N8, can handle Dolby Surround 720 Divx content and does it well.  My version had Tron Legacy Trailers, which when plugged into my 1080p flat panel TV via the N8’s HDMI out looked amazing.  And with the N8’s wifi N built in, this phone could be a great media server.

The screen is great to look at, and does seem to work very well, even in bright outdoor environments.  Yet, for me, the choice of fonts that Nokia have, just seem – well, ugly.  If I look at the way text is rendered on my Desire it is cleaner and easier to read.  The issue may be Nokia’s choice of only using a 360 x 640 pixels, 3.5 inches screen, compared to the Desire’s 480 x 800 pixels, 3.7 inches.  On the Nokia, I find my reading times have slowed.  I’m sure some font nut expert will be able to tell me why (and I am sure I will nod and agree with them, whilst they spout stuff I have no understanding of).

The USB as host feature, is simply wow. And by wow I mean WOW! (like the camera, it will get a dedicated blog post in the future).  I plugged in a $10 SD card reader, inserted a card from the Nikon D90 into it and, and up came all the files straight on my Nokia N8.  I can now shoot high resolution shots with my range of lenses and without a computer upload the jpgs straight to Flickr (once I found . It works and it works seamlessly.  Couple this with HDMI out and you have a portable presentation system that works as a phone.  Already I leave the card reader and the USB cable in my camera bag – I can upload shots on the road, no laptop.

I wanted this phone to be good, I wanted to be able to go up to people and say, look what my Nokia can do.  Can I still do that, yes, but.  Two years ago, this phone would have trounced everyone.  But it isn’t two years ago anymore. When Nokia announced they had free Navigation on all GPS phones it was a market leader.  Having offline navigation for (even, just) your own country is a killer feature. And yet the newly announced Desire HD also has this feature. USB as host will come to a whole pile of devices shortly I am sure. HDMI out, whilst great  isn’t (yet) a killer feature on a phone.

Would I recommended this phone to someone.  Yes, I would.  Nokia fans will love it, as well they should. For Nokia though this phone needed to be something that would bring the fan boys back.  Nokia have made great hardware again, but great hardware isn’t what drives the smart phone market. I look forward to the firmware update from Nokia to see if that will fix some of the issues.  Once a bit more software comes out, it will be more friendly. I want a great mobile computer, and this isn’t it.

I wanted this phone to be great, I really did. But it isn’t at this point.

It is a great phone but not yet a smart one.

(Disclaimer: The Nokia N8 was supplied to me directly by Nokia Australia)